Mg Tf Front Suspension Diagram

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MG TD front suspension. Something is not correct. Baffling!

This would be easier to explain with pictures however, I didn't take any pictures yet. (broken camera).
I have a TD and a TF sitting side by side. Both had been disassembled down to the frame by the PO s. I replaced the rubber seals at the wishbone and swivels on the TD. After reassembling all parts I find the upper bronze top link is actually touching the domed housing that covers and holds the top of the coil spring. The top link has a piece that protrudes from the inner side ( which is opposite the grease fitting ) It is a the widest part of the top link that it rests against the top coil housing. The wheels have been adjusted for toe in/ toe out and are reasonably true top to bottom. When installing the top and bottom links should they be screwed in the maximum distance? As a comparison, the distance from the top link to the coil housing of the TF is approximately 1 inch or more. The TD cannot be driven with no clearance between these parts. I have searched the site and cannot find this problem addressed nor does the service manual explain these adjustments. Aside from the contact of the two pieces, the only other difference I have noticed is the position of the arms of the shock absorbers. The TF, while sitting on tires the arms from the shock are horizontal to the floor while the TD shocks are noticeably angled down. To my knowledge there isn't any adjustment for this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. REALLY. This is a stumper.
Thanks, Sal

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A picture would clarify.

A couple of questions. Are you sure you have the top link on the right side. There is a right and left.

As for how far to screw them on, they screw on until the bushing, distance tube and bolt slide through.

Do you have the rebound stop installed?

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You may have put a coin upside down ...
Sincerely, Thierry de l'Ardèche

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The spring needs to be compressed sufficiently to engage the top link and damper above the interference. I do this with the aid of a motorcycle tie down ratchet strap Once you have the engine's weight and tires in the floor the link will not be on the frame. You can then install the rubber snubbers if not already in place.

Bill Chasser
TD-4834

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Bill Chasser
TD-4834
TD-5779
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TD/c-16920
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You asked... " When installing the top and bottom links should they be screwed in the maximum distance? " No not at all....I'd suggest you read the installation instructions in the workshop manual. The links need to be centered on the recess portion of the swivel pin threads in order to pass the bushing through. Once assembled it should look something like these images.

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except the last one on the right.... I hope...

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1953 MG TD TD23816

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Well done Mike,
I had only seen the steering tie twisted but not the vertical axis!
Sincerely, Thierry de l'Ardèche

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I would magnaflux the spindle before reusing it. That entire assembly looks destined for the scrap pile

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Bill Chasser
TD-4834
TD-5779
TD/c-8151
TD/c-16920
TD-19408
TD-24060

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Whats the story on the right one LaVerne? Hell of a bend.

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It's the one that came off the 52 TD when I brought it home. pictured with the replacement Dan Craig sent me. I have no idea how it happened.

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LaVerne,
I just finished rebuilding my front end and a few days ago, while looking at the drawings in the WSM, realized I had put the swivel link bolts in backwards from the drawing. The WSM shows them being inserted front to back.

I see in your photos that you have inserted them as I did, back to front. Is there any reason to be concerned with the direction? I was dreading pulling them out and turning them around.

Thanks,
Bill Wenzel

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I can see no reason that it makes any difference Bill.

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LaVerne,

Very clean looking chassis and suspension. I am sure it was a lot of work.

I am curious what primer and paint you used for the various components. I need to replace all the rubber in the suspension in the TD I just purchased and while the pieces are out I will not be able to resist cleaning and painting them.

Steven

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1953 MG TD
1959 Bugeye
2013 Ford F150
2013 Aston Martin Vantage
2018 BMW X2

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I have pretty much settled into using Duplicolor self etching primer and paint. Goes on easy and drys fast. Probably better long term paints but some just take way too long to dry before recoating for my taste. Although I have had both the TD and TF frames powder coated along with a few other bits, the TD I was working on this last year had nearly all of the suspension bits powder coated as well. The only thing painted in these images is the shocks.

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I take advantage of this subject to show this picture from an old movie about the assembly of the TD and its front suspension.
You can clearly see that there is grease on the triangle where the suspension spring will rest.
As I never saw anywhere that it was necessary to apply some, I wanted to have your opinion?
Sincerely, Thierry from Ardèche, South of France

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